I am running my P75 with a 17d11 lp12 into an 82 and there is no problem with noise coming from the P75.
Having had this combination for about six months or so I also think that there must be a problem with the P75 or elsewhere in the system..
Is you napsc on your equipment rack if so try putting it on the floor out of the way as this may be having an adverse effect on the P75.

Hi Custard,
as posted previously the napsc is well away from the fraims - to cover this I've had the P75 well away from the hif whilst connected and the hiss is still there...

andy c!

before you make your choice get your dealer to replace the P75 and make sure you set the jumpers correct for your cart i.e drT mode and the correct coil resistance.
Belive me there should be no real audiable hiss.
To put that into perspective, with nothing playing the hiss is the same independant of pre source selection.
Phil

Hi,

Just wanted to post a report showing brilliant dealer service:
because of various things I only sat down to listen to the hifi last night - no right channel from LP12! I did some checking and made an assumption that It was the cart. I text Peter at Cymbiosis just to let him know I'd be back at the shop today.

However he'd been out on a visit and was on his way home, and he rang me! Not only that, but as a result of some instructions from him a faulty arm plug connection was identified! So I'll phone Roksan today and get a replacement sent out. Unplugging and replugging in the arm lead to the arm base reconnected properly and now I have sound again.

So a big thanks to peter for service well above the call of duty IMHO.

Fled,
i'll ask Peter about getting another P75 in, bearing in mind what you are saying.

andy c!

quote:

However he'd been out on a visit and was on his way home, and he rang me! Not only that, but as a result of some instructions from him a faulty arm plug connection was identified! So I'll phone Roksan today and get a replacement sent out. Unplugging and replugging in the arm lead to the arm base reconnected properly and now I have sound again.

Oh dear

A word of advice Andy, Roksan cable and connections are notoreously delicate as both I and another forum member has found out.

Play with them or bend them to much and they snap.

Regards

PB

Pb,

advice recieved - thanks.

New arm lead ordered from Roksan anyway due to the connection between the arm and the lead as previously discussed. Its playing fine at the mo thru the stageline, tho!

The P75 is also on its travels to David C - he can have a comparison between peter's P75 and his own, then!

andy c!

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Originally posted by Polarbear:

quote:

However he'd been out on a visit and was on his way home, and he rang me! Not only that, but as a result of some instructions from him a faulty arm plug connection was identified! So I'll phone Roksan today and get a replacement sent out. Unplugging and replugging in the arm lead to the arm base reconnected properly and now I have sound again.

Oh dear

A word of advice Andy, Roksan cable and connections are notoreously delicate as both I and another forum member has found out.

Play with them or bend them to much and they snap.

Regards

PB

Mmm, delicate maybe? A poor fit onto the arm plug more likely! I commented to Andy, as I fitted it to the Nima while he watched, how the metalwork within the individual pin sleeves on the five pin socket varied in height relative to the face of the plug I feel this may well be the cause of the problem, as Andy's repeated pluging in and un-pluging seems to have cured the problem for now.

I'll await the new, replacement armlead to arrive and then I'll re-fit it to Andy's deck!

Never had any of these problems with an ARO

PB - I trust the decks are a little more reliable and better built????

Peter

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PB - I trust the decks are a little more reliable and better built????

Solid mate, solid

well...

Am back from sunny Morocco and awaiting the post this morning as Roksan should have sent another arm lead if my planning works!

However its a shame to change things as things have warmed up quite nicely!

I have had a listen to the rig for a good couple of hours - stageline and hicap in situ - it seems to have warmed up nicely, giving some added clarity and reinforcement of the bass. I was well impressed with the changes and am quite happy with the upgrades so far.

On speaking to David c it would seem that the earlier hiss issues I mentioned with the P75 are equal to that of his P75, suggesting no fault with the unit.

He is sending me back the P75 for further evaluation within my system although to be fair I am thinking of leaving the phono stage issue alone a few months till the arm lead, cart and deck have settled down.

andy c!

Update,
After extensive listening between the stageline S hicapped, P75 and the Heed Quasar, the 1st two have just been dropped back off at Peters!

Just got back from the dealer (Cymbiosis) after the need to change the arm lead after identifying that the 1st one was faulty. Peter has done a full reset on the deck, including fitting of the arm lead, which he did not supply, FOC. True I have spent a fair amount of money with him, but nontheless this is very good service IMV...

Also of interest was that the dreaded buzz was back when i reinstalled the deck. I identified that when I connected the earth to the Heed, the Buzz was there. Disconnect the earth lead - buzz gone. I was then left with another problem, in that the arm was earthing thru the lingo and not thru the Heed (due to the Conn mod). I have disconnected the arm to TT earth, just using the arm to Heed earth - Buzz gone, and better earthing as it goes thru the dedicated spur etc.

hope this is of help,

Once again a big Up to peter for his patience and understanding etc etc.

andy c!

Ps - I had yet another carrot dangled, but had to sadly decline...bugger

Andy,

do you think the Nima is a step forward over the Ittok or is it a difficult call given the other changes? I have almost convinced myself to go for an Aro, but the Nima could be an acceptable compromise that frees up funds for use elsewhere.

Also, what is it about the Heed that puts it ahead of the Stageline?

Pete's also been very helpful with me and these questions are a bit premature seeing as the most recent addition has yet to arrive, but I am inclined to put the LP12 next on my upgrade path (spring '06), rather than the recommended S'cap.

Cheers
Huw

I can't call the differances for the reasons you describe, Huw. The arm itself is very good indeed, but i would question Roksan re the arm lead, of which I am on my second, and the connection is not brilliant. Thank goodness you can access this via the hole in the baseboard.

Having spoken to others I don't think the Nima is as good as the Aro, but then again price is relevant, here, too. Get hold of my e-mail address via Peter as I have an idea re this topic which may assist you!


The Heed just seemed more balanced in my set-up. Its more revealing and just as musical etc. Please note the other factor was that I didn't want to spend more than £600.00 on a phono stage, now or in the future, because of the CD to LP ratio I play...

andy c!

Thanks - will do
Huw

PS - might explain cryptic comment from Peter as well

Huwge,

Accept no substitute.

Go for an ARO.

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Go for an ARO

If you can afford it and you play enough records, otherwise save up for a 252( )

Huw,
What spec is your Lp12?

Andy,

Has Cirkus bearings and Trampolinn (not sure if necessary now, but seemed worthwhile in pre-Fraim days), Ittok LVII with a Goldring Eroica GX (MC version only available in Germany it seems), Lingo 1 is now ca. 14 years old. Bought the LP12 from a friend 16 years ago and has been a very loyal companion, if a little tempremental on occasion. Use Stageline S powered by Flatcap 2.
Huw

PS - pls do not even start on 252

In that case Peter will probably advise you to look at an Armageddon/Lingo2... But I won't put words in his mouth.

FWIW my old Linn set up was quite punchy - listening to it now, despite the new arm lead, It makes my old LP12 sound very flat indeed! Oh Dear...

andy c!

Yup - the jist of Pete's last recommendation was S'Cap, PS, arm. All moot for the moment, but come end Jan. / Feb. will be more active.

As is, waiting for hedgehog (Powerigel) and XPS2 to arrive, so fun and games for the next couple of weeks as they bed in

Huw