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Hi to all Brucknerians,
Being a lover of Bruckner's music and owning all his symphonies in their several versions and recordings ( specially No. 8 ) I would like to ask you if there is other composers that their music affects you the same. From my part I found two unknown composers that their music appealed to me the same as Bruckner's and they are: 1. Hans Rott- Symphony in E major- Gerhard Samuel and the Cincinnati Philarmonia Orchestra- cd from Hyperion, 2. Alberic Magnard - Symphony No. 3 in B flat minor- Jean-Yves Ossonce and the BBC Scottish Symphony Orchestra- cd from Hyperion. Any recommendation will be most welcome, Regards. Fabian |
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Dear Fabian,
Out of interest, which Bruckner recordings do you have. Personally, as a cycle, I find Jochum's Dresden readings pretty hard to beat (though in number 8 I haven't heard anything yet that challenges Furtwangler, despite poor sound quality). regards, Tam |
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Hi Tam,
I own the complete set of Celibidache recordings with the Muncher Philarmoniker( EMI )- my favourite, I also have another set from Decca ( Solti, Chailly, Baremboim, Blomstedt), the Naxos set by Tintner and a wonderful recording of N. 9 by Stanislaw Skrowaczewski with the Minnesota Orchestra from Reference Recordings that sound amazing through my Naim gear. Regards, Fabian |
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My nominations with an English-based flavour would be the orchestral music of John Foulds, Granville Bantock, Hubert Parry, Charles Stanford and Cyril Scott. The orchestral music of Charles Koechlin in also worth exploring. |
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I'd suggest Robert Simpson's symphony no 9 - he was stongly influenced by Bruckner, Beethoven and Nielsen. And to accompany it I'd get a copy of his book "The Essence of Bruckner" which is an excellent review of the symphonies.
David |
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Hello Fabian,
I really like Bruckner too. Symphony cycles by Karajan and Wand are very good, but I think that Jochom on EMI takes some beating (and at budget price). For similar music try louis Glass.If you are interested I will send you some - no charge- (copies of course) Mark. |
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Just noticed you also own the Celibidache Bruckner, I have not yet heard those. Are they as good as the mags say?
Cheers Mark (again) |
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Dear Mark,
I agree, the Jochum EMI cycle is very special - I wonder if anyone here knows his earlier DG cycle and how that compares. As far as Celibidache goes, you may like to take a look at Graham's post at the bottom of this page. regards, Tam |
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The Fourth [from E Jochum with the BPO on DG] is lovely, but the only one I have from this set. I can't think of anything I don't like about it, and it manages the trick of making the Finale sound as grand and conclusive as the rest!
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Dear Fredrik,
That is really very interesting - I must have another listen to my Dresden account to see if he manages it there. As you suggest, it really is something of a trick, and the area for me where most 4ths fall down. regards, Tam |
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Dear Tam,
Get back on that for I have always had a mind to get the Dresden State/ E Jochum set, if it wins here! Please! Fredrik |
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Sorry to sound like a broken record, but Robert Simpson (who knew quite a lot about Bruckner, amongst other composers) changed his whole view as to the stature of the last movement of Bruckner's Fourth after hearing Celibidache's [Swedish RSO] performance.
Some way ahead of Boehm/Wiener PO or Jochum/Berliner PO, in my view (although it's good to have all three). Graham |
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Dear Fredrik,
I have just dug it out and (no doubt to the outrage of some) had a listen to the last ten minutes or so. Quite wonderful. This is interesting because the 4th does not normally leave me with that impression. Indeed, a comparative (though, not a very good/fair comparison) to the last few minutes of Walter leaves me wondering quite why I have the later on my ipod instead of Jochum! I shall get back to you after a proper listen (with any luck tomorrow), however, even if it doesn't quite, of the three cycle I own the Jochum is comfortably the most satisfying, and pretty cheap to boot (in other words, it's a worthy addition to any shelves). regards, Tam |
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Dear Graham,
I must look out some of these Celibidache recordings when I have a chance! regards, Tam |
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Tam
Indeed you should, although (as noted elsewhere) my enthusiasms may not always coincide with yours! Graham |
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This is true, although the samples I listened to online (a poor guide, I know) for the Brahms sounded very promising.
regards, Tam |
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Thanks Tam i I really enjoyed reading those items. This forem thingy is brilliant. Cheers Mark. |
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Hi Mark,
I agree with Graham's post about Celibidache's slow conductorship, I certainly prefer it to Karajan's, specially regarding No. 8 , my favourite symphony. Thank you for your recommendation of Louis Glass, a few minutes ago I wandered through Amazon.com and listened to the samples from his Fifth and Sixth symphonies.I will explore them a little more before any purchase. Regards, Fabian. |
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Also very expensive  (even if, like me, you spend most of your time in the music room).If you (and indeed other new members) are interesting, I've been putting together a list of 'interesting' classical threads over the last few months (or longer). regards, Tam |
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Very interested Tam, just read the thing on Brahms symphonies, which was very good.
Cheers Mark. |
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