Dear All,

I see many plasmas/LCDs can handle sources of 720p, 720i and 1080i but 1080p is often missing.

Isn't 1920x1080p the highest resolution possible, i.e. is true HD? Therefore buying a TV without this capability is asking for trouble?

thanks
Bruce

Have a look here: The Register Guide to HD

I've just seen a properly set up Sharp XD1 1080P screen - farking cool... plasma-like blacks too.

Had just got enough set aside for a 37incher, but contemplating looking for a further grand to fund the 46 inch version....

mike, do you know of any plasmas that accept 1080p

As I recall there was that £6k pioneer 50 that what hifi reviewed a while back.

pioneer 50" 1080p alas £6,000

neil

so all the 42" plasmas from the likes of pionner, panasonic, etc will never be able to display what you call true hd, ie 1080p, glad i am not thinking of changing my 3 year pw6b for a while then,

just read fujitsu are bringing out a 50" and 65" plasma which can handle 1080p, no indication of prices in the artical ?

Panasonic Professional has their first 50 inch coming out at the end of December in Canada. We have taken deposits for two clients who want 1920x1080 in a 50 inch without the $3000 extra cost of the Pioneer Elite piece. Price in Canada at release will be in the $6500 Canadian area plus taxes. TH50PF9UK is the model number.
Bryan

will anyone make a 42" plasma that can accept 1080p, and if it can be done will the price be resonable, not saying i prefer lcd, but have seen the sony 46" lcd which accepts 1080p, for around £2500

There was an ad in Friday's papers by either Comet, Currys or Dixons, sorry i can't remember which one, for a '40" Samsung True HD (1080P?) TV and Blue-ray player for about 2.5k. Don't know if this was a good deal or not.

The Panasonic 50" 1080p panel uses Fujitsu glass–so you'll likely see at least two, possibly three (including Pioneer Elite) manufacturers with displays on the market soon.

Pixel size may be an issue?

Obviously the LCD boys can get their pixels small enough for 1080P on a 37inch panel... but they only have to let light through...
They can easily do this as I can see by the resolution of the monitor on the pc I'm using right now.

Plasma's pixels actually have to emit light... there's probably an issue with how small the pixels can be without reducing the surface area to the point where the light production isn't sufficient to give the contrast ratio we expect on such a device.

That's probably why these 50inch full HD plasma's are so expensive.

I shall watch with interest - while I save the extra grand for that 46inch Sharp!

So if you don't have 1080p capabilities on your flat screen you cannot watch 1080p material?

b

Err.... wrong.

You can watch 1080P material, through an HDMI cable to any HD TV - but you will only see the full 1080 resolution if the screen has enough pixels to support it.... if its' a 720P panel then the TV will downscale the image to a 720P resolution.

You can even watch 1080p through component video or scart cables on a regular crt - in this case the player will downscale and you just see a very good, but standard definition, image.

The reverse is also true.

With a 1080P panel, supporting 1920x1080 resolution, ANYTHING you watch uses the full resolution. Were you to watch an American NTSC dvd in progressive scan then the picture is 480P
The TV will upscale this to 1080P so you don't just get stuck with a small picture in the middle of the screen.

From what I saw on the Sharp in my local dealer's they've paid a lot of attention to the scaler in the set.
I saw one WMV clip which was stored twice - once as 720P and once as 1080P.

The 1080P clip looked very slightly better, as no scaling was involved... but if I'd never had that as a comparison I'd have been more than happy with the job the set was doing on upscaling the 720p version.

Hi David,

I think you'll find that Fujitsu use Panasonic glass now. Not the other way.

Cheers

Graham

Guys - I don't know if I'm allowed to point you in the direction of another forum but there is a really good "sticky" thread on this very subject here: http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=409129

It certainly put me straight on a few things.

Matt.

quote:

Originally posted by rackkit:
There was an ad in Friday's papers by either Comet, Currys or Dixons, sorry i can't remember which one, for a '40" Samsung True HD (1080P?) TV and Blue-ray player for about 2.5k. Don't know if this was a good deal or not.

Best thing to do is find out the native resolution of the screen. native 1380x768 will likely downscale to 720p.

Shops sometimes quote total pixels rather than native resolution.

1380x768 = 1,059,840 pixles.
1920x1080p is around 2 million

Here's the deal i saw in the paper.



The model numbers are, TV: LE40F71BDX, Blue-ray DVD Player: BD-P1000.

Might be of some use to somebody...

Mike1380,

Cool, thanks. That's what I needed to know.

Bruce

I shall be very grateful when we know what to buy, as IMO the market as usual with short-term capitalism is happy to destroy the planet (s) selling crap worse than older cheaper stuff.

So far, I am still using my old 4:3 CRT tube devices in black cabinets - their picture is better (feed it RGB from non-blueray etc DVD/cable or Freeview or probably Sky...).

Power-consumption (switch off bugger when not in use) is arguably as low as best of 'flat-screen' non-wide-screen 16:9 silver cased thingies.

New Steeleye Span great album wastes a CD2 on 'Ned Ludd' (would have fitted on CD1).