Little bit of an oops for Hamilton in Montreal today.
Ten grid spot penalty can't help how he's feeling about now...
Kimi's reaction was pretty funny I thought!

Sandy

Did you see LH make a joke about his dad's crash last week? ie, how can you crash a car at 30mph?!

Well done Kubica though hows that for "laying" the ghost(almost) of last years race?

"It was the bird in the Force India pits with her baps out Ron"

Jono

Hamilton is a talented driver but it was basic errors that cost him the championship last year and will be again this year if he doesn't look sharp.

Did anyone hear Brundle ask Bernie during the grid-walk about the "pikies" repairing the track? Best of all, Bernie knew what he meant!

Tony

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Hamilton is a talented driver but it was basic errors that cost him the championship last year and will be again this year if he doesn't look sharp.

Looked like a bit of a "boy racer" incident to me - didn't see the red light guv,

FF

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Originally posted by Frank F:

Looked like a bit of a "boy racer" incident to me - didn't see the red light guv,

FF

He'll end up with more than a 3 point penalty for it, though, Frank!

Oops, Brundle is in the POO over his Pikey comment I mentioned above....

Tony

Pikeys ain't Gypsys. Usual PC wankers "angry of Tunbridge Wells" types wouldn't know real Gypsy if they fell over one.

I have to say when I first saw the accident I thought 'what a twit'. However, on reviewing it, it's easy to see he could have been blindsided, and the very fact that Rosberg made exactly the same mistake in the same place speaks volumes for the fact that the accident couldn't be avoided.

In my view the true fault lies with Ferrari who put out their man in parallel with outgoing traffic!

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In my view the true fault lies with Ferrari who put out their man in parallel with outgoing traffic!

Yeah if the Ferrari lined up behind Kubica he could have taken them both out.

The Ferrari lollipop man should have kept Raikonnen in until the pit lane was free of traffic, but that would have meant giving the race to the others.

The fact is there is not meant to be overtaking in the pit lane. In effect, Raikonnen was attempting to overtake Kubica and if the crash had not occured it would have been a drag race to get out of it (onto those lovely marbles on the track).

Ferrari are the instigators of the crash in my view.

I'll remember Frank's reasoning if I ever get flashed going through a red light....


Tony

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Ferrari are the instigators of the crash in my view.

So the people who obey the traffic lights are responsible for the actions of those that don't? Even if Hamilton was so inattentive, or did not look at all, that he missed seeing the red lights, how could he not see 2 stationary cars?

His fault entirely, no excuses - not from him anyway.

Nigel,

The Ferrari shouldn't have been there in the first place. No Ferrari, no crash. The lollipop man wanted his driver out in front of the McLaren and let his man out early.

Tony, on the road, you're allowed to go through a red light in order to avoid a collision provided it is safe to do so.

I wonder how many people have successfully defended themselves against a prosecution for going through a red light? Especially considering that drivers are prosecuted after being 'flashed' for going over the stop line at a red light to allow the emergency services through.

Tony

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Pikeys ain't Gypsys.

Round here a "pikey" is understood to be a traveler of Irish decent, as opposed to a proper Romany "gypo", not that I condone the usage of either term. However, I met quite a few people at University who used the term "pikey" for what I would term CHAVs, and the Scots term NEDs. There are some interesting variations too, "pikelet" for small chavy children for example.

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Originally posted by Frank Abela:
Nigel,

The Ferrari shouldn't have been there in the first place. No Ferrari, no crash.

Frank

You clearly have a Hamilton bias (or anti-Ferrari bias) which is clouding your usually good judgement. It is immaterial whether or not there should have been 2 cars side by side at the end of the pit lane. This is not, actually, that uncommon or in fact against regulations. The FIA has taken no action against the drivers of the 2 cars at the head of the queue or their teams.

What is a fact is that Hamilton slammed into the back of a stationary car from about 50 kph. That is stupidity at worst or inattention at best.

The "Hamilton incident" shows, thankfully, that todays formula 1 drivers are NOT robots. And congratulations to Kubica!

JohanR