I hope that at the time of his ninetieth birthday, perhaps Mr Nelson Mandella may add [with unique insight and authority] some useful and log-jam-busting words on the subject of the future of Zimbabwe.

Anyone else think this might be the way forward?

George

I certainly think Mandella's words would be less easy for Mugabe to dismiss than those of the likes of Gordon Brown. It is very easy for the likes of Mugabe to try to portray Britain and other former colonial powers as having no motive other than to interfear in their former domains. A man who (whether rightly or not) is widely seen as the liberator of the South African black majority might well have more success. It would be particularly embarassing for Mugabe to be condemned by Mandella, as his supporters frequently compare him to Mandella.

I certainly don't think Tsvangirai has done himself any favours by seeking refuge in a western embassy, especially the Dutch embassy, as the Dutch would be considered by many to have been one of the largest colonial powers alongside Britain and France. It surely makes it easier for ZPF supporters to argue that the MDC is little more than a front that the former colonial powers are using to increase their influence in the region.

I dont know why some one does not just slot the bastard.
He has got away with to much for far to long IMO.

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Originally posted by munch:
I dont know why some one does not just slot the bastard.
He has got away with to much for far to long IMO.

No oil in Zimbabwe...

Maybe the MDC should announce they've discovered huge oil reserves?!
I was amazed Mugabe attended the United Nations food summit in Rome recently;
why wasn't he arrested?

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Originally posted by munch:
I dont know why some one does not just slot the bastard.
He has got away with to much for far to long IMO.

I've asked a few of my Zim friends, both black and white, about this and they all say that it just isn't the Zim/southern African way. Whatever will be will be, I suppose.
And we've seen what can happen when a tribal leader is taken out.... bloody massacre.

Tony

DEar All,

In this world of political correctness we have been rewarded by our guilt.

So we have Political Dictators who put former colonial powers to shame by their totally inhumane conduct on their own peoples while using the COLONIAL FACIST GUYS WERE WORSE.

So we have little support from African nations when we comment unfavourably on an African Govt even thought that Govt is committing Genocide and is killing more people than the former colonialists ever did.

The African nations need to act in a more grown up manner and police their own continents Govts.

It seems amusing that Africa takes our generosity with regards to help funds and food, but does not listen to our advice on how they are treating their own populations.

IMHO Africa is a failed and doomed continent and as a result millions will die.

While we sit back and go

A: Wasnt like that when we ruled the country

B: We must let them adapt to change and proceed at their own pace, otherwise we may offend them with our Colonialist opinions.

regards a a former colonialist Kenya and HongKong.

David

Davo,

I do find the sleazy ways of these "leaders" more than a little troubling. Why did we not help the right guys getting into power I wonder?

As for the view that Africa is a doomed continent I feel that the Catholic church has done more to promote the spread of AIDS by condeming the use of condoms that anyone else.

Sorry I drifted off the topic for a moment there.

Didn't anyone spot the Hilter mussy as a bit of a clue to his character?

Jono

Jono

And in the meantime China is wading in to Africa for its next reservoir of cheap, willing labour and corruptible governments.

Tony

Do you think any African countries will win medals at the Olympics?

Let me see you want arms?

We Gottem?

You got minerals

You got slave labour like we used to have.

We treat you better than those Imperialist Capitalist whities.

We Gotta Deal?

Oh Yeah we keep you in power too.

Great trading with you guys!

regards a cynic.

Still many will be sharing in the Olympic Idyll in a country that promotes the Olympic Philosophy.

Any contribution from me on the topic of Mugabe would clearly violate forum rules & etiquette.

Oh Come On Now This Is A Forum For Adult Discussion.

Just Refrain From Using Offensive Language

regards Hard to offend

especially when such language is directed to a person so deserving.

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Originally posted by DAVOhorn:
Oh Come On Now This Is A Forum For Adult Discussion.

Just Refrain From Using Offensive Language

regards Hard to offend

especially when such language is directed to a person so deserving.

I will tell you tomorrow evening at Lontano's farewell dinner. At my age I will have to watch my blood preasure so.

Well Nelson Mandela said it, but my goodness he did not waste a lot of time doing so!

George

thought mandela didnt go far enough myself.
coming round to munches solution just send the SAS boys in to eliminate him.......NOW !

Much as I instinctively like that idea, I can't help thinking that it would only make Mugabe a martyer.

maybe but what the hell have the people of zimbabwe got to lose ?

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Originally posted by scottyhammer:
maybe but what the hell have the people of zimbabwe got to lose ?

Even more lives in the aftermath.

Tony

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Originally posted by Tony Lockhart:

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Originally posted by scottyhammer:
maybe but what the hell have the people of zimbabwe got to lose ?

Even more lives in the aftermath.

Tony

For an example see Iraq. The replacement must be a fine upstanding fellow, and I mean that without an irony.

Jono