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This evening I met a friend who invited me to his home to listen to music. He knows I love Naim and he wanted me to listen to his very expensive system.
His system based on micromega transport, VAC d/a
unit, VAC pre and VAC valves power amp, cabasse
speakers (large cabinet don't know the model).

Acording to what he says, only the power amp and the speakers are more expensive than my CDI,flatcap/72/140/ibl.

To my ears, this very expensive system is a waste of money. Another proof to me that Naim is a good
purchase !

SOUNDSTYLE.

I'm looking for a cheap racks and I found something from soundstyle. I don't know this firm.
The rack I want is 5 shelves and looks very nice. There are some more expensive wooden racks from soundstyle, but the one that matches my budget is with glass shelves.

CAn you tell me something about soundstyle ?

Thanks,
Arie

 
Posts: 2008 | Location: Haifa, Israel | Registered: Sat 09 September 2000Edit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Can you tell me something about soundstyle ?

Yes, stay away from it! I used to own Soundstyle and it is a bright a nasty sounding stand. Simply awful. The thing I built to replace it was infinitely better.

Just get Mana and stop worry about this stuff.

Vuk.

 
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Thanks Vuk,

I trust your opinion and I'll not buy sounstyle.
I don't think I have the money for Mana and no one imports it to Israel and this makes it not easy to buy.

Arie

 
Posts: 2008 | Location: Haifa, Israel | Registered: Sat 09 September 2000Edit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Arie,

If you want to try Mana, why not e-mail them directly? I'm sure they will ship directly to your door.

Do you know how Omer got his Mana?

Joe

[This message was edited by Joe Petrik on WEDNESDAY 29 November 2000 at 21:11.]

 
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Joe,

It is frightening to buy such an expensive product without testing or even viewing it.
Omer will let me check his reference Mana table but I don't think I'll buy a complete table without at the least seeing it first.

Arie

 
Posts: 2008 | Location: Haifa, Israel | Registered: Sat 09 September 2000Edit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Joe,

Omer has a Mana SoundFrame and he paid 100 GB + 80 GB for shipping.

Arie

 
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I'm looking for a cheap racks and I found something from soundstyle. I don't know this firm. The rack I want is 5 shelves and looks very nice.

Arie,

The Italian racks from Solidsteel are available in Israel according to their website www.solidsteel.it. A friend of mine bought the 5.5 model a few weeks ago to replace his small Quadraspire and Base racks. I must say I am VERY impressed by the performance of these racks! The improvement over his old racks was painfully clear.

They really are beautifully build and look very nice to IMO (and no glass... ZZINGGG!....) Check it out!

Richard

 
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Yo Joe,

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Do you know how Omer got his Mana?

Arie is accurate wrt costs. The shipping costs were too much, but I tried to look for a cheaper carrier, and surprisingly it was a fair price.

Note, though, that if you order 3 soundframes, e.g., the shipping cost per each drops to about 40 GBP I reckon.

Omer (a hi-fi gambler).

 
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Richard,
While trying to enter the site you suggested, it
brings me to this one http://www.audiogamma.it/
which has no racks. I don't know why it happens.
Can you please post the deatsils of the Israeli
dealer of solidsteel as you view it in your computer ?

Thanks,
Arie

 
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Hey Arie,

You can select Solidsteel on that site at the top!

Regards, Bas

 
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Bas,

Thanks, I feel shame 'cause I didn't see it - and I'm a programmer....

Arie

 
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All I get is a page with X-2000 on it. Looking at the source, it seems there's nothing selectable...

Regards,
Frank.

 
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Frank,

There is a window named "index" at the top right of the main site page.

Click on the "index" window and select the desired
subject from the opened window - you can roll down the list as it last down to the bottom of the window .

Arie

 
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Frank, don't use Richard's link. It has a dot on the end which must be removed! The right address is:

www.solidsteel.it

regards, Bas

 
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Thanks for the help guys - the stands are made of steel, which is suspect as far as I'm concerned.

Regards,
Frank.

 
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Frank,

do you think the problem is specifically steel (i.e. ferrous / magnetic) or any metal stand in general?

I'm wondering about the differences I might expect between the same design executed in aluminium instead of steel. This relates specifically to a custom stand that I like in steel, but might be even better in alu?

cheers, Martin

 
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the stands are made of steel, which is suspect as far as I'm concerned.

There is no such thing as 'bad or suspect' material to build a rack from. The end-result is a combination of construction and used materials. There are horribly bad steel racks and very good ones. Just as with wood, MDF or whatever.

There are racks made from iron/steel with glass that are 'quite famous' in the Naim community...

Whatever the material, manufacturer or price, the best thing to do is get one to try and listen to it.

Richard

 
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I'd rather have a stand that doesn't induce currents from A.C. sources and re-radiate. Sadly, Naim boxes are made of lumps of aluminium.

Andrew

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Vuk,

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Just get Mana and stop worry about this stuff.

I went to Mana forum, told my problem, they answered very quickly (jw) and asked me to email them.

They answered quickly to my email with excelent details about all the subjects I asked - but
the PRICE, the price shocks me although I know it is not a cheap rack.

No one can convince me to buy a Mana table instaed of upgrading to a 102/180 (instead of my 72/140) and that what is all about !!

Well, I will find another rack, but not a Mana
(and not a soundstyle).

VAC.

I got a personal email from a person who loves VAC
and tells me that the problem with my friend's system is that he doesn't use THIEL speakers - the speakers that VAC are using to demo. He says that with these speakers VAC is a better system than Naim - so I bring his words.
He also tells me that VAC used to demo with

quote:

"Sci-Fi speaker (Scientific Fidelity)
This speaker was designed by Mike Maloney in U.S. his speaker well known under-ground market.
Tesla speaker uesd Seas unit and type of tall-boy(two 6.5 inch mid-woofer and one tweeter).
Unfortunately, Now Sci-Fi company closed factory.

If it says something to someone it maybe interesting, for me it is the first time to hear about "underground" speakers - realy interesting.

Arie

 
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