No worries Frank.

I'm currently using a Graham's hydra. I would need a power distribution thingy to try either Chord or the new Naim power cables. Do you think either would be a step up from a hydra?

Would Chord power cables be a better choice to keep the whole loom Chord?

Graham

Been playing with the Indigos. I'm not sure the din/din Indigo is an improvement on the Hiline. The Hiline really does seem faster and more engaging. However, the din/xlr Indigo is a massive improvement over the supplied cable between 552PS and 300.

I wonder when Naim will release a new 4 pin din -> xlr cable????

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Originally posted by Mutant Enemy:
Hi Graham
How much are the Indigo leads? Just curious.

Hi,

The din/din cable is around £800ish. I think the din/xlr is a bit more expensive so perhaps nearer £900.

Graham,

Is it not worth waiting for Naim to release a din/xlr cable using the new airplug technology? It must be in the pipeline (sometime??) and may have more 'naim' type atributes compared to other cables and might cost a tad less than £900.

Just a thought.

Sean.

Sean,

I'd love to hear a Naim din/xlr cable. Now they have the 4 pin din -> 5 pin din available it's just a simple matter of replacing the 5 pin din with an xlr connector. However, I'd need two of these to go between the 552 and 300.

I'm almost tempted to cut off the 5 pin plug and solder on an xlr connector myself

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Originally posted by Graham Russell:
Been playing with the Indigos. I'm not sure the din/din Indigo is an improvement on the Hiline. The Hiline really does seem faster and more engaging. However, the din/xlr Indigo is a massive improvement over the supplied cable between 552PS and 300.

I wonder when Naim will release a new 4 pin din -> xlr cable????

Not long now I would have thought. They have done the hi-line, power line so it makes sence the din/XLR's Snaics will come soon.

I have heard a Naim system with Indigo through to Power amp and Signature to speakers and would be interested in comparring notes in a week or two when the cables are more settled,

Regards

PB

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Originally posted by Polarbear:

Not long now I would have thought. They have done the hi-line, power line so it makes sence the din/XLR's Snaics will come soon.

I have heard a Naim system with Indigo through to Power amp and Signature to speakers and would be interested in comparring notes in a week or two when the cables are more settled,

Regards

PB

I heard a rumour last year about new din/XLR cables, but nothing has appeared yet.

Thats because they are still working on the powerlines, Naim Net and those other things

All in good time Graham.

quote:

Originally posted by Polarbear:

I have heard a Naim system with Indigo through to Power amp and Signature to speakers and would be interested in comparring notes in a week or two when the cables are more settled,

Regards

PB

Have had the Indigos between the pre and power and it's sounding fantastic. Much much better than the standard cables. My system has never sounded so natural and musical.

I'll have a go at swapping hiline out again later.....

What were your experiences of the Indigos between pre and power?

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However, I'd need two of these to go between the 552 and 300.

Serves you right for being a flash sod!

Mind you I bet it sounds good.

Howard

Hi Graham,

define better?

I found the Indigo:s to be much more opened and detailed than the Naim XLR's. However my opinion was it opened the sound up too much and the Indigo was taking the music away from where I wanted it to be. I remember thinking at the time that this didn't sound like a Naim system and the whole point of buying Naim boxes in the first place is to get that Naim sound. A close knit musical sound which gets your toes tapping and whereas the Indigo probably appears "better" to most I find the Naim hi-line, XLR's and the Naca 5 have a synergy that nothing yet has bettered.

Just my honest opinion!

Will your Indigo's be staying?

Regards

PB

I think it is a case of 'different' rather than 'better'

I have been revisiting Chord Signature (old version) spkr cables with the 500 and my Kharma's and was getting pretty enthusiastic about it with the HiLine....but....I put the NACA5 back for a check and as before it was better. Same story as Nigel.


regards
Geoff

I understand where you guys are coming from. However, sometimes different can be better too

I've never thought about buying into Naim to get the Naim sound. I'm looking for something that is as real, as musical and as engaging as I can get. My Naim system is doing this for me.

The supplied din->xlr cables are simply 3 core mains cables. It's not unreasonable that Indigos can do a better job. To my ears they are clearly better. With a crystal ball it would be interesting to know how the possibly forthcoming Naim cables compare to the supplied cables.

My focus is now on whether din/din Indigo improves on the Hiline. I'm not sure for the reasons PB mentions about close knit sound and tapping toes. It's nice to be in a position to be able to play for a few weeks though

The reason I mentioned the Chord Power Chords is specifically because of the unified cable loom idea. Since you've gone that way with all the other leads it seemed reasonable to try to get all the way to the mains socket in Chord. Admittedly you'd need some kind of distribution block which in itself means introducing another brand since Chord don't make one (I wish they would).

Since Naim have come out with the 4-5 HiLine for the Superline, it seems reasonable that the 4-XLR leads may be next, working top down. I'm just hoping it doesn't take too long to come out with a 5-5 HI-SNAIC.

A decision has been made. The din-xlr Indigos are staying

A massive improvement over the standard cables.

There may or may not be a Naim/Hiline cable in the future. Having tried to sell future technology for many years I've learned not to believe the hype. There's no guarantee it will ever arrive and/or work.

The music is sounding much much better and that's all that counts. I'm not fussed what name is on the "tin".

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Originally posted by Polarbear:
I found the Indigo:s to be much more opened and detailed than the Naim XLR's. However my opinion was it opened the sound up too much and the Indigo was taking the music away from where I wanted it to be. I remember thinking at the time that this didn't sound like a Naim system and the whole point of buying Naim boxes in the first place is to get that Naim sound. A close knit musical sound which gets your toes tapping and whereas the Indigo probably appears "better" to most I find the Naim hi-line, XLR's and the Naca 5 have a synergy that nothing yet has bettered.

Just my honest opinion!

Will your Indigo's be staying?

Regards

PB

I had VDHull Jubilee cables instead of standard xlr naim cables. ALL the other cables were VDhull. Buying Hi-Line "made me" start putting back other naim cables. I reached exactly same conclusions as PB ... yes those bad looking naim xlr's were giving "naim music" while VDHull were NOT. I had VDHull for 3 years ...it took me quite a while to learn.

All i know is that i will change naim cable only with new naim cables! The rest i don't care anymore.

regards and good luck with your choice
rui

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Originally posted by Rui Marques:

All i know is that i will change naim cable only with new naim cables! The rest i don't care anymore.

I obviously don't have the same brand loyalty as lots of you guys

3 core mains cable just doesn't sound the same as Indigo in my system.

I vote with my ears.

And your wallet Graham!

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Originally posted by Chris Kelly:
And your wallet Graham!

Just loose change

"Big Issue" sales going well then?