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zztop
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Could I please get some advise whether to purchase:

1. Nait 5i (New) or
2. Nac 112x & Nap 150x (2nd hand)

I've always been a big fan of Naim and I'm in the midst of making my first purchase. The shop I went has offered me the above pre & power (2nd hand) for 55% more than the Nait 5i (new). He let me listen to both of them & I seemed to love them both. Could you all please give me some advice as to which is a better buy (sound & value). Please help me. Tq
 
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Ray1
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Hi zzTop

I did once had the 112x and 150x, try to get a flactcap2, great combo, and later you could get either a 122x or 202 for your 150x amazing amp for the price.
 
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what are your speakers, main souce, room size, and future plans?

I owned the Nait5i for 6 months then upgraded for the Snait and the DAC that it houses. The 5i was a great little amp, but I found I wanted to do more with recording vinyl to CD's, a little more power, and next steps were more obtainable, among other things. Sparate components are good for upgrades and options, just a listener and enjoying some CD's and entry level TT, the Nait5i is just fine.

rega1
 
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Edouard
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1. Nait 5i (New) or
2. Nac 112x & Nap 150x (2nd hand)


You can find a Nait5i s/h, it will be less harmful when upgrading...to a 202/150x Smile
The other option for me would be a 122x/150x s/h, as the 122x is quite better than the 112x.
As for the 112x being better than the Nait5i, it's questionable.

Regards,
Edouard
 
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kuma
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zztop,

What source are you running?
 
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Hi zztop;

I've had a 112 on extended home demo in the past. I purchased a nait5i (non italic) for a couple of weeks and then exchanged it for a 122x/150x. I have just recently added a flatcap 2x to power my 122x. Source is a CD5i.

I like a warmish and layered musical presentation rather than dry and in your face. The Nait was a nice little amp but I found it a bit grainy and edgy when compared to the 112/90.3. I bought the Nait and thought that burn in would take care of things for me but the improvements that came were still short of what I was seeking. I returned my Nait and went for the 122x/150x and from the first bars of music it was obvious that this was a superior performing pair. The sound was a bit less "tube like" compared to the 112/90.3 but it was more detailed and more dynamic as well and I have been quite happy with it. Last week I added a flatcap to the pre and the whole system has taken a whole new life. The extension of the bass, the dynamics, the resolution, the intimacy and refinement of the highs are just some of the improvements that came on.

So, is a nait a fine amp? yes. Is the 112/150x better? yes. Many people bash the 112 but I kinda liked it. What is nice about it is that the volume when controlled by the remote doesn't irraticaly jump up but increases in a very nice and linear fashion. If you are looking for further upgrades in the future go for the 112/150 s/h. Do a demo and you are likely to agree.

Regards...
 
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zztop
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Originally posted by rega1:
what are your speakers, main souce, room size, and future plans?

I owned the Nait5i for 6 months then upgraded for the Snait and the DAC that it houses. The 5i was a great little amp, but I found I wanted to do more with recording vinyl to CD's, a little more power, and next steps were more obtainable, among other things. Sparate components are good for upgrades and options, just a listener and enjoying some CD's and entry level TT, the Nait5i is just fine.

rega1


I'm a bit embarrass to say but currently I'm using an old pre power from musical fidelity, cd source (Marantz 6002) & old M71i mission speakers. I will eventually upgrade them as soon as I have enough to spare after the amp upgrade. BTW, I have an extremely small room (8ft by 10ft), the only speakers would fit would be a bookshelf or a small standmount. Tq again for the kind advice
 
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Originally posted by Flame:
Hi zztop;

I've had a 112 on extended home demo in the past. I purchased a nait5i (non italic) for a couple of weeks and then exchanged it for a 122x/150x. I have just recently added a flatcap 2x to power my 122x. Source is a CD5i.

I like a warmish and layered musical presentation rather than dry and in your face. The Nait was a nice little amp but I found it a bit grainy and edgy when compared to the 112/90.3. I bought the Nait and thought that burn in would take care of things for me but the improvements that came were still short of what I was seeking. I returned my Nait and went for the 122x/150x and from the first bars of music it was obvious that this was a superior performing pair. The sound was a bit less "tube like" compared to the 112/90.3 but it was more detailed and more dynamic as well and I have been quite happy with it. Last week I added a flatcap to the pre and the whole system has taken a whole new life. The extension of the bass, the dynamics, the resolution, the intimacy and refinement of the highs are just some of the improvements that came on.

So, is a nait a fine amp? yes. Is the 112/150x better? yes. Many people bash the 112 but I kinda liked it. What is nice about it is that the volume when controlled by the remote doesn't irraticaly jump up but increases in a very nice and linear fashion. If you are looking for further upgrades in the future go for the 112/150 s/h. Do a demo and you are likely to agree.

Regards...

Do you thing 1,000 pounds is a good investment on a 2nd hand Naim. BTW, the condition is quite good. Tq
 
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zztop
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zztop,

What source are you running?

A budget CD, might have to upgrade soon
 
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In that case, Nait 5i-2 and the extra funds should go towards the source.

It's a unassuming little amplifier, but I was pleasantly surprised how well it can keep up.

Your room is small, so Nait 5i-2 is perfectly capable to power most standmounts.
 
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Originally posted by zztop:
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Originally posted by Flame:
Hi zztop;

I've had a 112 on extended home demo in the past. I purchased a nait5i (non italic) for a couple of weeks and then exchanged it for a 122x/150x. I have just recently added a flatcap 2x to power my 122x. Source is a CD5i.

I like a warmish and layered musical presentation rather than dry and in your face. The Nait was a nice little amp but I found it a bit grainy and edgy when compared to the 112/90.3. I bought the Nait and thought that burn in would take care of things for me but the improvements that came were still short of what I was seeking. I returned my Nait and went for the 122x/150x and from the first bars of music it was obvious that this was a superior performing pair. The sound was a bit less "tube like" compared to the 112/90.3 but it was more detailed and more dynamic as well and I have been quite happy with it. Last week I added a flatcap to the pre and the whole system has taken a whole new life. The extension of the bass, the dynamics, the resolution, the intimacy and refinement of the highs are just some of the improvements that came on.

So, is a nait a fine amp? yes. Is the 112/150x better? yes. Many people bash the 112 but I kinda liked it. What is nice about it is that the volume when controlled by the remote doesn't irraticaly jump up but increases in a very nice and linear fashion. If you are looking for further upgrades in the future go for the 112/150 s/h. Do a demo and you are likely to agree.

Regards...

Do you thing 1,000 pounds is a good investment on a 2nd hand Naim. BTW, the condition is quite good. Tq


I can't really judge the price u are offered as my affair with Naim has been only with new boxes. But as for value, I think they are amazing value Smile
 
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rega1
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Originally posted by kuma:
In that case, Nait 5i-2 and the extra funds should go towards the source.

It's a unassuming little amplifier, but I was pleasantly surprised how well it can keep up.

Your room is small, so Nait 5i-2 is perfectly capable to power most standmounts.


Winker Well said. Bookshelf inquiry on your other thread, Dynaudio 42's work well the the little amp. Demo speakers first for sure and make sure you listen in your room for the demo!!! You will probably get different sound for sure compared to what you will hear in the dealers room.

rega1
 
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I have recently downsized from 252/Supercap/olive 250 to Nait 5i. Didn't notice any huge drop in quality - it's every bit as enjoyable to listen to. Unless you need lots more power then I would not hesitate to get the Nait.

Regards,

Peter
 
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Steve O
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As kuma says, the Nait5i is a cracking little amp, and putting the extra cash towards a Naim source, possibly the entry level CD5i is the best way to go.
This is a cracking combination.
I haven't heard the 112x but I did own, very briefly the 112. The word briefly in the last sentence tells you more than I could ever try to explain! To me the Nait5i knocks spots off it.
Good luck with whatever option you choose.
Regards,
Steve O
 
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Hey Guys,

Guess what!!! I'm now a proud owner of Nait5i. Got it last friday, been enjoying it ever since. I would like to take this opportunity to thank you all for your kind advice, I really appreciate it. My next project would be to get a nice little speakers for the Nait and then perhaps to upgrade my cd source. TQ again guys.

Regards,
Zam
 
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Congrats Zam. Glad you are happy with you amp Smile

Regards...
 
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zztop,

maybe consider a second hand Naim CDP before upgrading your speakers. you may be surprised what your curent speakers sound like on the end of a Naim kit.

Welcome to the wonderful ride and enjoy your new Amp.
 
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Welcome to the machine Messrs Gibbons, Hill and Beard.

FWIW, I had a 122/150, and changed it for a Nait 5i because I thought it sounded better.

The 122x is better of course, but strangely, although the Nait 5i and the 150 are both rated with a nominal 50wpc output, their transient power delivery ratings (the ability to produce fast peaks of power output) are quoted as 250 VA (effectively watts) for the 150, and 300 VA for the Nait 5i.

I still have and love my (original and non italic) 5i. It's restricted in terms of inputs and facilities, but its apparent simplicity gives it a first class sound, reminiscent of a cut-down 500 series amplifier sound.

I keep threatening to try it in my main system in place of my 552/500, but almost dare not!

I considered upgrading it to a Supernait a while ago, and on a comparison dem, kept my 5i. It's a bit of a blinder.

Enjoy.

John.
 
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FWIW, I had a 122/150, and changed it for a Nait 5i because I thought it sounded better.
The 122x is better of course,


John,

I think you mean 112 and 112x as you changed your 112 for a Nait5i.

Regards,
Edouard
 
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Zam,

Congrats on your 5i.

It's a gem. Smile
A Nait goes a long way.

Enjoy your journey ahead.
 
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