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Coz my CD5x/112x/150x that's 6 days old suddenly sounds a bit crap TBH and there's hardly any bass Eek (sounded better out of the box). Please someone reassure me!
 
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Woody--

This too shall pass....

And you will shortly have a terrific sounding system!

Best,

Bob
 
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I'm sure the Nait5 and CD5 didn't go through such a drastic change Frown

I look forward to the day it sorts itself out (again!) - Bob, any idea how long it will take with the 5x stuff?
 
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Woody--

I could make something up......but I won't.

I've never heard a brand new Naim piece that didn't settle down, for the most part, after about two weeks or so. I'd have to believe the 5x series would be similar. When I got my CDX, it seemed the majority of break-in took about two weeks, although I thought I could detect improvements as far as two months later.

So--please be reassured! It will be GREAT! Smile

Best,

Bob
 
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Thanks...it's pretty alarming though, isn't it, when suddenly it sounds so dire?

I put a bit of faith no more on that I had been listening to on my ipod and TBH currently I'd rather listen to it on that! Frown
 
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My cd5x took a few weeks to settle down (though I can't ever remember it sounding awful), but it only really hit its peak after about two months. That said, it's difficult to pin down exactly what was running in when since I've made a lot of changes to my system lately.


regards,

Tam
 
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Big Grin Big Grin

Try different speaker cables Winker
 
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What are the speakers Woody?

New Naim kit is generally a bit 'phat' sounding within a few hours, and the sound 'leans out' and opens up, over the first few days.

However - something is not right. New kit should be musically enjoyable within about 20 mins of being fired up. What follows is icing on the cake.

You're probably hearing better bass control. My first gut reaction when I went from a 250 to a 300 power amp was "Hang on; there's less bass".

It was all there of course, but better controlled. The equipment you have, is not inherently bass light in character.

Can you tweak your speaker positioning?

John.
 
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Woody,

be patient. I am sure after a few weeks use it will sound much better.

Regards

NB
 
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Woody.


Its just that your expectations are too high.
In two weeks time it will sound exactly the same, its just your expectatons will be lower and you will think it now sound great.

All this running in is a load of tosh.

Think about it, it a no brainer for me.
 
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Originally posted by giosblue:
Woody.


Its just that your expectations are too high.
In two weeks time it will sound exactly the same, its just your expectatons will be lower and you will think it now sound great.

All this running in is a load of tosh.

Think about it, it a no brainer for me.


No it isn't. It's very real. Now it's entirely true that there may well be a psychological element, but there are also technological reasons. I've never owned a piece of equipment that didn't take some running in.


regards,

Tam
 
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JN and NB,

I've done some speaker position tweaking and it's now started sounding much better Cool I moved the speakers awayfrom the wall and reduced the toe-in. A lot. Does that make sense? Doesn't to me really.

Definitely bass is more controlled as I can now tell notes whereas with the Nait it was more of a mush.

Funny thing out of the box it sounded much better than I had before so maybe it's my expectations... Confused
 
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I'm just like the rest of the people on these forums. ie we spend far too much time (and money) on the equipment.

The fact of of the matter is well recorded music sounds good no matter what its replyed on.
(even on the car stereo)

Our problem is we spends loads of money trying to get the crap recordings sounding good.
And the funny thing is the more we spend the worse these crap recordings sound. Its a vicious circle. Were just spening more money to make us more unhappy?
I'm sure we call all put together a handfull of recordings that sound STUNNING on our systems.
I know I can, yet I still try to get the rest sounding better at great expense.

But this running in (if there is anything in it) would be very ,very short few hours max.
 
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All this running in is a load of tosh


You better tell Naim that. The instruction manuals are clearly wrong on this subject.

John.
 
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Woody,

I am also new to Naim equipment, and I found my Naim set up very disagreeable, especially when compared to my other tube system.

Suddenly, one day after about 3 weeks of continuous running-in, things suddenly gelled. It happens to all of us.

The best advice I received from this forum is to do nothing for the first month.

Be patient and I am sure all will be well.

Joe
 
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Originally posted by giosblue:
And the funny thing is the more we spend the worse these crap recordings sound. Its a vicious circle. Were just spening more money to make us more unhappy?


Just one guys opinion here, based on my own experiences, but there is a difference between spending money and throwing it away. If you're tossing more money at your system and it is actually causing some of your recordings to sound worse, then you've made some bad decisions over the course of your equipment swaps. A worthwhile upgrade should elevate all of your recordings, not just the "audiophile approved" recordings.

All the best,

Bill
 
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Six days... Is that when the bill came due?
Enjoy the ride.
David
 
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Just had a flash-back of my adolescence more than 30 years ago, where everybody used to talk about "it" to happen, eventually, that "it" was a huge step (on your way to man-hood), and there were also steps-back waiting for you on your way to reaching "it". Hoooh ! Scary !

Different targets to reach, but similar process, and more or less same advice and comments given by the "knowing circle"

those good ol' times...
Stefan
 
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All this running in is a load of tosh


You better tell Naim that. The instruction manuals are clearly wrong on this subject


Of cousre Naim say that (they would wouldn't they)
If thats the case then Naim would provide scientific proof and and the matter once and for all.
To the best of my knowlege (and I could be wroung) There insn't any.
From sounding "CRAP" to the best thing since sliced bread just becuase its been switched on for a couple off weeks? I don't think so.

Loads off people talks about this subject, but as Alan Suger, (i think) once said.


SHOW ME THE MONEY!
 
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If the sound is changing, then just wait for it to stop changing and see how you like it then. As this thread demonstrates, different people hear different things. But what use are their ears to you?

I'm sure it will turn out just fine. I've had to wait up to 3 months before some bits have stopped swinging about - but that doesn't make me an expert on what your gear is doing and is defenitely not in accordance with what it says in the manual.

Cheers

Harry
 
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