I have 2 linn arm cables--1 normal length,and 1 40% length.The latter sounds considerably more dynamic,musical and evolving---so must be something in the Prefix philosophy.

Does a prefix with a cheap PSU e.g snaps2(which I have spare) sound worse or better than the standard phono boards of a 72 with a hicap?
-pointless to throw hicap money at this upgrade in view of other upgrade possibilities.

Naim say flatcap(similar to snaps2) is 'suitable' for the prefix on their website.

Anyone have experience it this arse about face combination of upgrades.

(I'm moving more as a upgrade meander than on an upgrade path)

wisdom welcome
Ta
Richard

The Prefix is not a tweak. It's far better than that. Look on it as an improvement to your turntable. It really opened up my LP12.

I also use a 72 and the addition of the prefix, whilst improving almost everything about the sound, also confirmed that my system is now limited by the preamp. Even if you save for an 82 or a 52, you still need the prefix. It's an essential part of the turntable.

Hope this helps

Phil Craddock

Do you have a hicap powering yours to gain such an improvement??--the edition of one of these even S/H would add an extra 200% to the price.

Regards
Richard

When I bought my 72, Naim dealer suggested me to get a prefix in the future - first to get a Hi cap to replace my flatcap and then get a prefix that will work with my flatcap - which he says is enough for the prefix.
But the point I want to tell you is that the prefix is not very expensive as a new, and the dealer will take back the phono stage of my 72 and that will reduce the price of the prefix to a level that it is realy advised to buy a new one - don't you know a dealer who can do the same for you ?

Arie

Also, my 82 has 2 Hicaps and if I were to go the Prefix route, I might have to reassign one of them. Would the gains (if any) of LP12/Ittok/Lydian/Prefix/82/Hicap outweigh the losses (if any) of LP12/Ittok/Lydian/82K/2*Hicaps?

Don't you just love the vast permutations available with Naim kit? I'd appreciate your views on this one.

James

Resistance is Futile

Since a Prefix/Hicap outperforms the phono stage of a 52 (or a 52 powered Prefix) I would be confident that the Prefix/Hicap into a 82/1 Hicap would comfortably outperform the phono section of the 82 with 2 Hicaps. Since I have heard those permu tations I would suggest investing in a Prefix, move 1 Hicap to power it, leave the other on the 82, and enjoy. The only fly in the ointment is if you listen to a great deal of CD, in which case it might not make sense to remove one of the Hicaps from th e 82.

Cheers,

Bob @ Qwest

Dozy

Arie

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Has anyone Prefixed an Ittok'd LP12?

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I'm looking to upgrade to NAC112 in the new year, and will need an external phono stage. The prefix will be easier to accomodate (one less box to worry about) and Naim have confirmed it can be powered from the 112 until funds allow a PSU.

I'm also using an Ittok so I'd be interested in others experiences.

Andy.

Andrew L. Weekes
alweekes@audiophile.com

The next upgrade will be a Supercap for the Prefix.
Regards Börje®

James,

I'd definitely get an ARO before a Prefix. Not only is it a much bigger upgrade IMHO it also allows you to keep both HiCaps on the 82. In my experience a Prefix is a more refined version of the phono boards but the ARO is radically different kettle of fish to an Ittok.

Also keeping the 2 HiCaps on the preamp means you retain an option to trade them in against a SuperCap for the 82. My experience of 82/SC is that its a very effective upgrade for relatively little money if you've already got 2 HCs to trade. (Although I'd still do the ARO first unless the LP12 splits time with a CDX or better)

Matthew

Thanks for your view points. Right now, my listening time is split about 60/40 between CD and vinyl but will shift dramatically to more vinyl time since getting my VPI cleaner. I have to agree with Matthew's assessment of upgrade priorities and will just have to save harder for the ARO first.

The Prefix still makes sense (after an ARO), which means I'll need to retain one Hicap to power it after I have added a Supercap for the 82. Such is the joy and tribulation of the Naim upgrade path I guess.

Thanks again.

James

Resistance is Futile

Regards
Chris