sorry, you're wrong.

A couple of years ago I'd come to the same sort of doubt that you are at now.

Since then I've heard two or three systems with 82's, 52's, Isobariks, active 250 SBLs, etc, which really are worth the money. This has now given me something to aim for with my system, which has been getting better by leaps and bounds ever since I started to sort it out about 18 months ago (the CDS-II helped!)

The room seems to be overwhelming important, and this is what I must tackle next. I really am getting there.

Oh, and one other thing - if your system suddenly 'clicks' into place and starts to sound magical leave it alone!

cheers, Martin

I get much the same at home and whilst I appreciate every component and its effect, I sometimes hanker after a simple CDX>72>250 system that will work out of the box 95% of the time whithout any further to do.

And then my system starts working again and I couldn't live with anything less!

Dave

Wrong ? If I do whats right how can I be wrong ?

(Please re-read my post, particularly the penultimate paragraph)

Allan

[This message was edited by Allan Probin on TUESDAY 19 December 2000 at 13:18.]

WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO APPRECIATE THE "LESSER" SYSTEMS IF YOU HAD NOT EXPERIENCED THE "BIG GUNS" IN A PREVIOUS SEARCH FOR NIRVANA?

I have noticed that whilst I appreciate my current system and things like the CDSII/52/500/NBL system I heard recently - I am also able to 'hear more' from other systems - and I don't always mean 'real hi-fi' here - things like my basic JVC micro in the kitchen and my car stereo.

It's as if I have been 'tuning' my ear over the last couple of years, so it is now capable of discerning more detail etc..

Thoughts?

Jonathan

This is because I really listen in the car and are free of pre-concetions about 'hi-fi' sound. Sometimes you can be put off at home by thinking about whether I should use Hutter furnitureare the spikes sharp etc etc. Whereas in the car, if I did that a) it would be a waste of time b) I'd probably crash. My expectations are less. Perhaps the appreciation of more modest system is, in part, this. You expect less and so are more open to what is actually there.

An example. The first time I heard DBLs in '91 I expected a lot. To cut a long story short I thought they were terrible, horrid lumbering beasts, with a nasty honking squawking sound. Then I heard them last year - I wasn't expecting much, however I found myself rivetted by the music. Undoubtably some smoothing of the design has gone on, however I believe it is I who has 'grown-up' in them main. Undoubtably big systems can be a pain to set-up but so can small ones - the rules are the same if not to the same degree of criticality.

Perhaps if your system sounds bad, it is not to blame, but maybe you. If so get the message, go for walk, cycle go see a film. Do something else, then come back and listen tomorrow. Its worth a try.

First off, for my part I'm not sure if the more is more enjoyment or more understanding, but I think it's more understanding chiefly.

This is why, I think. When you first start attending live music performances, whereas before you've only heard reproductions, you actually get to see how sounds happen and figure out the sounds that different instruments can make. Then when you go back to hearing, say, a movie soundtrack on tv, you can associate sounds much better with what you heard live. Once you have seen some rock bands and heard Fender and Marshall amps, you will be able to recognize them on a car radio, whereas previous to seeing live performance you might not even have been aware of the different types of equipment which might affect the sound of a guitar.

Similarly, a high quality audio system will present extra information that you will learn to process and recognize. It will bring out details (including sounds previously unheard as well as the signatures of instruments and voices and production techniques) that you will then be able to recognize on lesser systems. The net result: you become a more sensitive listener.

--Eri

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Secondly, you will want to establish a good relationship with your banker, employer and other financial stakeholders. The urge to upgrade will bite sooner or later and there is a myriad of Naim combinations from which to choose

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Blimey, I hope I can settle for a little bit now - I've been waiting for about 2 years now (ever since I got my ELAs).

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It might be beneficial if your partner (if applicable) share your musical taste and enthusiasm.

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Oops! - there is some crossover - I think my wife would be happier if I managed to find some decent classical music (why does that seem so hard?) rather than my mainly 70s soul/funk, 80s rap and modern jazz collection.

Cheers for the advice (I'll try and build up an excess of sleep in readiness )
Alex

Alex you can look forward to sound quality that justifies the loyal following of Naim enthusiasts from around the world.Legendary reliability,customer service equal to the best,good resale value when upgrading and pride in equiptment that will give you years of enjoyment which is what its all about.

Congratulations and Merry Christmas and a happy New Year.

Festive hooch

I took your comment "I could even sell it all and buy a CDX/102/180" and was advising you not to do it. Re-reading, I realise this was more of a "well I could but I won't".

Also, I meant that bigger system can sound better in every way than a CDX/180, but you may not be lucky enough to have a great room. In this case it can take a fair bit of work to get it sorted.

Sorry, this was all written in a bit of a hurry, as I don't normally post from work, but what the heck.

No offence was intended!!

sorry, Martin