Ian

I'm rather with Fredrik on this. Ten seconds over two minutes is hardly much and I'm sure that the Kleiber 'sounds' much faster. As a matter of interest - and allowing all Fred's points over repeats, etc - have you actually timed the two performances?

Graham

Fredrik & Graham,

Thanks for the replies. I had perhaps misunderstood your earlier comments, 10 sec extra in 2 mins is about 10% and I expected the tempo to be specified to at least that accuracy by the composer - but hey you live and learn.

No I haven't timed the performances overall yet but I'll report back if it get to it.

regards

Ian

Yes, C. Kleiber's 5th is extremely good...but it's not in the class of his father's or Furtwangler's May, 1947 recorded reunion with the BPO.

Compared to EK's and Furt's recordings, Klemp and Boehm put me to sleep. Hmmm...that may apply IMO to a wider repertoire than Beethoven's 5th....Of course, Klemps' Magic Flute and Don Giovanni recordings are top of my pile....

Regards.

Phil